What the Hell Is It with Photographers?

March 11th, 2008  |  Published in Photography  |  7 Comments

All Flash Web Pages

Rant?… yeah… its a Rant today. If you aren’t in the mood, come back later.

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I just looked at 7 wonderful photographer’s portfolio sites. Fantastic images.
Well presented… no animated crap or flying and flipping and bouncing photos.
Just well presented, excellent work.

I had never heard of these guys before, and, hey, I try to stay informed. I found their links on a page that cost them money to be placed there. All of the sites were totally built in Flash.

Look. Here are the Damn FACTS!

Art Directors DO use search engines. Search Technology, Taxonomy and relevance are currently eating millions, if not Billions of dollars. Search and find IS the way the world is more and more working. Plain damn fact. Several recent surveys point this out… Clearly.

So these folks built websites that CANNOT be found. No Way… Unless they spend additional dollars, time and effort to drive customers to their website.

“Well, so and so has a flash website and she’s busy all the time…” Yeah. I hear ya.
She also has a Rep in LA, a Rep in NY, and a Rep in London.
Combine that with her 30K annual ads and workbook placements… yeah… gotcha.
If you are pulling 500K and have all the work you can handle, you can stop reading this and laugh your ass off. Good for you… seriously, I wish everyone could do as well.

Here’s a real world reality. Search Engines cannot see Flash Websites.
Google and Yahoo and MSN don’t look at Meta Tags anymore. So all they see when they get to your Flash site is a page that says, essentially… have a nice day… get the hell out.

This isn’t rocket science, alchemy or some bizarre, carefully hidden secret. It just freekin’ is. Search engines are customer centric… and advertisers, website owners and photographer’s are not their clients. Searchers are their client. They want to be relevant… being relevant to the searcher means knowing what is on the page that they are serving to the searcher. Words… that’ all they can see… words.

We used to be able to use Meta Keywords to show Google and the others what was on the page… and especially if the page had a lot of graphics on it. Combine that with the ‘alt text’ for the images and a page could at least have a fighting chance.

Gone. Got it? Gone. No more Metatags, Flash pages are holders for a movie file and search engines are not looking into movie files. (”Well, my web builder has a way where a page is actually shown to the crawlers and then they index that and…”) Bullshit. You can provide all the freekin’ alt pages you want… if VISITORS don’t see them, they fall way back in indexing. It is seen as a ‘trick’ for SEO… and Google will squash it soon… if they haven’t already. If you don’t understand that Google is annoyed by tricks, redirects, hacks and ghost pages… learn it. It’s called ‘Black Hat” and it wont last.

But photographers keep doing this shit. Going to Flash developers who have no idea how the web works (or they would create, you know… hybird sites and make them search friendly and still accomplish the design look they wanted…) Oh yeah… it can definitely be done… just don’t ask the ‘Graphic Designer’ who is now a Flash Guru about it… Ask someone who wants to help you make a site that WORKS. Designers who also want you to do well instead of winning awards for themselves… from other designers… not from photographers who increased their business because of the design.

So back to the portfolios I saw.
All of them simply designed. Perfect.
All of them uncluttered and easy to navigate. Perfect.
All of them had wonderful imagery. Perfect.

None of them had a page rank, or backward links, or any ranking at all on Google or other places that measure traffic. Oh yeah, the photographer and a few friends and clients can see it… Cause they know it is there… but someone in Las Vegas looking for a photographer who shoots large product in Columbus Ohio just ain’t gonna find it. (But, as I said… they looked good…)


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In fact, they all look cool… I guess that’s all that matters in a robust economy where photographers have all the work they can handle and are just rolling in wonderful jobs. You know, like today when photographers have a lock on their field and there is simply no end to the boon in site… Yeah. Like that. You bet.

Now the kicker… All of these could have been hybrid sites.
All of them. ALL OF THEM.… All could have been done in HTML/CSS/XML and use flash to show the movie parts. The designs would have allowed that easily. There was simply no rational reason to use the Flash. (Flash does cost a lot more….hmmm…. naww, that isn’t it. Couldn’t be.)

Oh, and all of them had ’splash’ pages, or ‘covers’ or whatever the hell is they call them these days… It’s a freekin’ locked door to search engines… Didn’t your ‘Flash Guy’ tell you that? Didn’t they sit you down and tell you…

Flash Guy: “Hey… we will spend like, maybe, like 10K for this. And it will look really cool. I can use some tiny little fonts, and put, like, little grid lines behind your images… oh… and this is cool… the thumbnails will slide in from a dark area… whoa… gettin’, like goosebumps thinking about how cool this is gonna look.”
You: “What about how well it will work to expand my customer base and create new channels for growth. You know, its been a little slow so I want to show more of my lifestyle to a wider market.?
Flash Guy: “… uh, did I explain how the thumbnails will, like, slide in…?”
You: “… Yeah, ‘k… sounds great. Let’s do it.”

I had a totally Flash developer tell me once that his sites were easily searched in Google. And he was pissed cause some photographer in Phoenix ran to him to tell him that I was dissing his product- which I wasn’t by the way. So this guy calls me and threatens to sue me if I don’t place a retraction, which I did so I wouldn’t have to be a problem. Hey, Phoenix Photographer… thanks for calling me first to get where I was coming from. Really professional, dude.

Anyway, he tells me to go to Google and type something into the search cause he was gonna impress me with how their Flash websites ARE searchable. So he gives me this:
Jimmie Bobby Ray Photography - got it… hit the Search button.

There it is… right on top!!!! My God!

URL is www.jimmiebobbyrayphotography.com (don’t click it… sheesh).

Impressive. So if I, like, dial your phone number, would it connect to you? Everytime? Really?

Impressive.

Of course the damn thing will connect to you… and of course your URL when typed into Google should show up first… At least it better. Try it. If it doesn’t, LOL… you gotta much bigger problem. Call somebody who knows and cares… not your developer… he/she should have known it was an issue… if they cared.

As he was droning on I type in “food photographer new york” - the photog in question’s specialty.
Not found on first 300 listings.
“still life photographer new york”
Nope.
“french food cookbook photography’
Uh…uh.

So if I know who you are, and remember what your website is, I can find you in Google.

Impressive.

Flash is fine for showing portfolios and image pages.
Just keep this in mind… an AD cannot mark a specific image and send the link to a peer, his boss or the client… he has to send a message that says… “go to www.jimmiebobbyrayphotography.com, click on the portfolio link then go to portfolio 4… go 12 images in… that’s the one…”
Wow… you really made his life easier…

Websites should be searchable. They should be ‘bookmarkable’. They should load fast. They should be customer centric, not “you” centric. They should feature what the visitors want… no one else… not even, uh… you. They should impress clients who overwhelmingly come down on the side of ease of use, notability, no extraneous crap and ease of use… yeah… I mentioned it twice. What…? You think you’ll get a job cause of the delicate kerning on the fancy, hip font that the Flash guy insists is ‘the one’ to use cause it is so “you”? Really? You really do?

So, to me, here’s the deal. If you have a Flash web site and are crying the blues about how you aren’t getting calls from it or that it isn’t doing what was promised, sit down. You did it. You made that choice. You didn’t research it, or you didn’t want to write anything, or you thought the cool factor was all that mattered. Fine, then you got a great Flash site that you can spend a lot of money to tell people where it is… if they can find the card, or search their email… oh, wait… they’ll just Google you…

ooops….

(Before the flames start from Flash developers… dudes, I love what you do. IF you do it in ways to help the client through their specific challenges. Do it with ‘eyes wide open’ and all’s good with me. Do it from a position of not caring about the photographer’s position, and I got no use for it.)

This also comes on the heels of a photographer that I know that is struggling to get some more work. He has the talent, and a wonderful portfolio. His site is Flash and he isn’t getting a damn thing from it. I offered to help, he was on board, but apparently talked to his Flash guy who nixed the whole thing cause it would have disrupted the design. I disagree, but whatever.

So… not ‘disrupting’ the design is more important than this guy’s financial health. Got it.

Naww… I really don’t get it.

Update: This is an interesting post at A Photo Editor. Note what AD’s are looking for.

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  3. Travis Ballard says:

    March 18th, 2008 at 5:57 am (#)

    i couldn’t agree more. as a freelance graphics designer and web developer myself, SEO is very important. not only to the client, but to me as well. also, they (clients) tend to pay more if you care about these things :) i wish more people would understand how all of this works and how search engines really do drive visitors to their websites. and the higher their PR and the more back-links they have, the better their search ranking will be. it really does pay off in the end. this is also the main reason i have never taken up flash. it’s great when used in a header or somewhere else on an html based website (i prefer xhtml though. just me. more organized i think.) but when it’s used to create a whole website, it’s not worth a dime of what you paid for it. sure you have some pretty graphics and a great portfolio. but who’s seeing it? in the end it’s about exposure. who sees your website and how they get there. make it accessable… less money spent on advertising is always a good thing! i don’t care who you are. anyways, there’s my two cents. take it or leave it.

    travis

  4. lawngnomehitman says:

    March 19th, 2008 at 9:21 am (#)

    I’ve talked to photographers and developers and both cite the reason for flash is that the images are “safe” inside of the flash. By having photos on a webpage, it makes it so much easier for the photos to be stolen. It is technically possible to “lift” photos out of a flash site, but it’s more difficult than a right-click and save-image-as. There are different ways to deal with this, but what it comes down to is that either the images are imbedded in a flash movie, or they’re seperate. Once they exist on their own, and not in flash, the images can be grabbed. I think that’s the biggest reason that people use flash for these types of things. They don’t want to risk having their images stolen, regardless of the resolution they’re presented at. If the images are at a low enough resolution/size to be safe from reasonable use elsewhere, they’re not really useful for people to see your work. If the images are big enough to be useful to show your work, they can probably be used elsewhere (especially on the web). Copyright watermarks kind of fix this, but they detract from the image. There’s no good solution to this problem right now, at least not that I’m aware of. It sounds like photographers have two options, either put their work out there and risk having it stolen because it’s so popular, or put it in flash, and it’ll be safe, but noone will ever find it! Do you have a suggestion that both protects the photographer’s images and allows searching/indexing by google/yahoo/?

  5. Don says:

    March 19th, 2008 at 9:46 am (#)

    Thanks for the question.
    First of all, please note that I implicitly believe that using Flash for the gallery portion of the site is just fine. I have absolutely no problem with that at all. There are lots of fine tools to do that, and if they are client-controlled even better.

    My point is that the rest of the site should not be built in Flash. Home page, client list, contact us, services… that kind of stuff… no way in Flash.

    Now for theft of images. I use Firefox and can simply snap a page with Flash content with a click. There are dozens of free tools to do that… and the people who really WANT to take the images already have their favorites installed. So to do it to limit theft is a non-starter. Putting the image into Flash simply is no deterrent to getting your images ripped off. It used to be, but no more.

    To keep an image from being ‘Googled’, simply name it a numerical or alpha-numeric title. Google is looking for a file name that states “tree_santabarbara2007.jpg” - it has no use for “PA-42007_sbt.jpg”. Oh… and make sure there isn’t an alt tag that states that it is a tree in Santa Barbara… make the alt tag say “Joe Photo Dude, SB CA”

    In a CSS/HTML page we can simply float a DIV over the image with a clear gif background in it. Then right clicks don’t work. The image is still in cache and screen snaps are still an option, but the right click is not an issue.

    Same/Same as Flash.

    My favorite way to display images is with a Flash Player hooked up to a folder of images with XML. The images are converted and shown as Flash, but never end up in the cache folder as they are never rendered as JPEGs.

    Hope that helps.

  6. lawngnomehitman says:

    March 19th, 2008 at 10:03 am (#)

    I can still probably pull a picture out of your css/html page with protection. Look at flickr, they do the same type of thing. Anyone who knows how html works can get to the image. I agree, you can try to protect your pictures, but there’s still going to be someone who will figure out a way to get the image out of there. I guess it’s an arms race, in which case, you should just make your site work for you, and take the risk of the chance of images being stolen, because it might happen anyway, regardless how hard you try to protect your eggs. When I said that about getting images out of a flash movie, that’s what I was referring to. In other news, flash pages are not accessible for those who aren’t running full browsers, so on a treo’s blazer browser, for example, you get NOTHING.

  7. Daniel Magallanes says:

    April 3rd, 2008 at 11:13 am (#)

    Hybrids are the way to go.

    As long as you have textual pages that Google can scan then you are more than likely to get indexed and better PR.

    Weak page titles are another pet peeve of mine as I always see the name of the photographer first instead of keywords like:

    “Billy Bob Joe Green Photography”

    With that title, you have no chance of being found on an organic search for any general search. The better way to title your site would be:

    “Playboy Model Photographer Trying to Get Laid and Shoot Nudes Billy Bob Joe Green Photography”

    Your key search terms should come first on your page title. Chances are you have “Billy Bob Joe Green Photography” somewhere on the text of your website. Unless someone is looking for “Billy Bob Joe Green Photography”, you probably will not be found.

    –Drunken Post–

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