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		<title>By: led retrofit lighting</title>
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		<dc:creator>led retrofit lighting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 02:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Then and Now: A Matter of Style &#124; LIGHTING ESSENTIALS For Photographers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Then and Now: A Matter of Style &#124; LIGHTING ESSENTIALS For Photographers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 15:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some recent posts: Shooting Waverunners in Mexico â€“ In the Ocean Interview with David Giral, Montreal Photographer Enough Negativity: Ten Things to Positively Affect Your Photography Four Photographers on the Trek [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] some recent posts: Shooting Waverunners in Mexico â€“ In the Ocean Interview with David Giral, Montreal Photographer Enough Negativity: Ten Things to Positively Affect Your Photography Four Photographers on the Trek [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Interviews on Lighting Essentials: Get to Know These Photographers &#124; LIGHTING ESSENTIALS For Photographers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interviews on Lighting Essentials: Get to Know These Photographers &#124; LIGHTING ESSENTIALS For Photographers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have had the wonderful opportunity to hear from lots of terrific, upbeat and successful photographers at Lighting Essentials. We have posted interviews with many talented people working in this most incredible business. They maybe aren&#8217;t the most famous around, but that is our focus. The &#8216;Big Guns&#8217; are interviewed all over the place. I want to get to know and introduce you all to the talent that it out there in towns like yours, and working in the business that you want to work in. Most recently we featured &#8220;Four Photographers on the Trek to the Top&#8221; and David Giral. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have had the wonderful opportunity to hear from lots of terrific, upbeat and successful photographers at Lighting Essentials. We have posted interviews with many talented people working in this most incredible business. They maybe aren&#8217;t the most famous around, but that is our focus. The &#8216;Big Guns&#8217; are interviewed all over the place. I want to get to know and introduce you all to the talent that it out there in towns like yours, and working in the business that you want to work in. Most recently we featured &#8220;Four Photographers on the Trek to the Top&#8221; and David Giral. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David&#039;s last comment is spot on. 

The first question if thinking about going pro should not be whether you would like taking images 7/24, but whether you are truly ready to run your own business. 

The good thing is that those that had prior careers often had a chance to develop these skills and the ability to answer that question more accurately then someone just out of school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David&#8217;s last comment is spot on. </p>
<p>The first question if thinking about going pro should not be whether you would like taking images 7/24, but whether you are truly ready to run your own business. </p>
<p>The good thing is that those that had prior careers often had a chance to develop these skills and the ability to answer that question more accurately then someone just out of school.</p>
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		<title>By: wizwow</title>
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		<dc:creator>wizwow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that, David.

I appreciate it so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that, David.</p>
<p>I appreciate it so much.</p>
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		<title>By: David Giral</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Giral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To reply to the main questions as why I did the transition to being a full time photographer, I don&#039;t see it like this. 

For me, I see it as switching from being an employee in a firm to being in charge of my own business and my financial reality.

I&#039;ve switched because I felt  I had reached my threshold as an employee so the last year as an IT consultant, I&#039;ve worked my ass off to develop my network, new skills, a decent portrait portfolio (before that Lighting Essentials workshop, I had done 2 portfolio shoots). To be honest, when I bought first my digital camera in 2004, I had in mind of eventually switching to photography full time.

I&#039;ve heard that story many times from people who switched to photography full time because they liked the artistic side and it&#039;d be fun and then realized that in the end this artistic side is only 20-30% of the time you spend and the rest is the business. 

When I switched to full time, I knew the key elements for being a photographer were:
- to be able to handle the business side (processes, negotiation, billing, pricing): this also means not contacting big firms as long as I don&#039;t feel I am able to make the perfect pitch to them)
- to be able to market myself and figure out my niches
- to be able to have revenues coming from various sources for more stability
- to be efficient (having worked in test automation for 5 years really helps as creating actions is key to have the most efficient workflow)
- knowing I could satisfy my clients needs EVERY single time

There are a LOT of talented photographers out there... what makes the difference between successful and unsuccessful ones is their ability to market themselves... and deliver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To reply to the main questions as why I did the transition to being a full time photographer, I don&#8217;t see it like this. </p>
<p>For me, I see it as switching from being an employee in a firm to being in charge of my own business and my financial reality.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve switched because I felt  I had reached my threshold as an employee so the last year as an IT consultant, I&#8217;ve worked my ass off to develop my network, new skills, a decent portrait portfolio (before that Lighting Essentials workshop, I had done 2 portfolio shoots). To be honest, when I bought first my digital camera in 2004, I had in mind of eventually switching to photography full time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard that story many times from people who switched to photography full time because they liked the artistic side and it&#8217;d be fun and then realized that in the end this artistic side is only 20-30% of the time you spend and the rest is the business. </p>
<p>When I switched to full time, I knew the key elements for being a photographer were:<br />
- to be able to handle the business side (processes, negotiation, billing, pricing): this also means not contacting big firms as long as I don&#8217;t feel I am able to make the perfect pitch to them)<br />
- to be able to market myself and figure out my niches<br />
- to be able to have revenues coming from various sources for more stability<br />
- to be efficient (having worked in test automation for 5 years really helps as creating actions is key to have the most efficient workflow)<br />
- knowing I could satisfy my clients needs EVERY single time</p>
<p>There are a LOT of talented photographers out there&#8230; what makes the difference between successful and unsuccessful ones is their ability to market themselves&#8230; and deliver.</p>
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		<title>By: DantÃ© Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>DantÃ© Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Don &amp; David,

Excellent interview. It&#039;s interesting that I have a similar background to you, David! I majored in GeoPhysics but got my degree in Computer Science and have been an IT Consultant (and employee) for 25 years! I recently got back into photography and find your story inspirational!

Do you see any parallels between IT Consulting &amp; Photography as a business, especially in people skills?

Also, I love MontrÃ©al! I did some work there in 2001 for Emergis and loved it! Hope to get back to see the GP one of these days.

DantÃ©</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Don &amp; David,</p>
<p>Excellent interview. It&#8217;s interesting that I have a similar background to you, David! I majored in GeoPhysics but got my degree in Computer Science and have been an IT Consultant (and employee) for 25 years! I recently got back into photography and find your story inspirational!</p>
<p>Do you see any parallels between IT Consulting &amp; Photography as a business, especially in people skills?</p>
<p>Also, I love MontrÃ©al! I did some work there in 2001 for Emergis and loved it! Hope to get back to see the GP one of these days.</p>
<p>DantÃ©</p>
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		<title>By: wizwow</title>
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		<dc:creator>wizwow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to ask David to pop in here for some insights. 

And I will be doing a rather on-going series with a friend of mine, Jan Klier who gave up a terribly sought after career with a huge company to make the jump - starting this Monday.

We will look back at his last year and what he has done to get him to this point, and then do a monthly checkin and checkup with him. This will be accompanied by audio and images.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to ask David to pop in here for some insights. </p>
<p>And I will be doing a rather on-going series with a friend of mine, Jan Klier who gave up a terribly sought after career with a huge company to make the jump &#8211; starting this Monday.</p>
<p>We will look back at his last year and what he has done to get him to this point, and then do a monthly checkin and checkup with him. This will be accompanied by audio and images.</p>
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		<title>By: Ranger 9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ranger 9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, I DO see the difference. However, it&#039;s easy for me to see the difference because I&#039;m looking at it from the outside. It can be a difficult judgment for photographers to make for themselves, because we&#039;re all emotionally involved (both positively and negatively) in our own work.

What I was asking for in my comment (which doesn&#039;t appear in the thread) was more detail on HOW photographers negotiate these successful transitions. You&#039;ve offered insightful posts in the past about photographers who are NOT ready to &quot;go pro&quot; (let&#039;s call that Point A) and this profile, for example, gives us a good view of someone who HAS successfully &quot;gone pro&quot; (let&#039;s call that Point B.)

I guess I have an ongoing interest in hearing more detail about how photographers successfully navigate the journey FROM Point A to Point B... and I suspect a lot of other readers might be likewise interested.

That&#039;s all. Sorry if the original comment sounded snarky. In my other life I get paid to be snarky on a per-snark basis, so it&#039;s hard to get out of the habit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, I DO see the difference. However, it&#8217;s easy for me to see the difference because I&#8217;m looking at it from the outside. It can be a difficult judgment for photographers to make for themselves, because we&#8217;re all emotionally involved (both positively and negatively) in our own work.</p>
<p>What I was asking for in my comment (which doesn&#8217;t appear in the thread) was more detail on HOW photographers negotiate these successful transitions. You&#8217;ve offered insightful posts in the past about photographers who are NOT ready to &#8220;go pro&#8221; (let&#8217;s call that Point A) and this profile, for example, gives us a good view of someone who HAS successfully &#8220;gone pro&#8221; (let&#8217;s call that Point B.)</p>
<p>I guess I have an ongoing interest in hearing more detail about how photographers successfully navigate the journey FROM Point A to Point B&#8230; and I suspect a lot of other readers might be likewise interested.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all. Sorry if the original comment sounded snarky. In my other life I get paid to be snarky on a per-snark basis, so it&#8217;s hard to get out of the habit.</p>
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		<title>By: wizwow</title>
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		<dc:creator>wizwow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So lessee...

I stated: &lt;em&gt;&quot;...So today we arenâ€™t going to worry about that $400 wedding (with CD and proofs) that happened yesterday, or the IT guy who shoots for the local ice-cream parlor for trade (Mmmm â€“ Rocky Road). Who cares anyway.&quot; &lt;/em&gt;

Yes, I dismissed him because he is shooting for ice cream. I don&#039;t care about that... and in the context of the previous post I was also referring to him in the context that OTHER people worry about him. I do not care about that stuff in relationship to it &#039;destroying professional photography&quot; as others seem to be so concerned about. 

&quot;And the difference isâ€¦?&quot;

You are kidding, right? 

The difference is that David is now a professional and has been steadily building a career. I do not see ANY correlation between &#039;shooting weekend gigs&#039; for fun and building a career. Even if it happens post transition, the career choice is the point of the interview.

I am profiling someone who shot what he shot and built a career.

What in my statement about the ice cream shooter indicated anything about his career choices, how and why he was doing it, what plans he had for the ice cream shots, whether he was planning on moving into food shooting or even that it was somehow wrong for him to do that. I perfectly stated that it didn&#039;t matter.

Quality of work.
Discipline.
Marketing.
Meeting Challenges.
Business Sense.

You seem to indicate that I was somehow disparaging to the IT guy shooting ice cream stores for ice cream. I was not... read it again. I don&#039;t care about that stuff.

But when someone breaks from that and starts to build a career in photography - and is successful in that transition - that is interesting. 

Guy shooting ice cream is an IT guy shooting for trade. Nope, not going to do an interview with him.
Guy who used to shoot ice cream parlors for trade, and now is shooting food for magazines... yeah, him I would interview.

Are you telling me you see no difference there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So lessee&#8230;</p>
<p>I stated: <em>&#8220;&#8230;So today we arenâ€™t going to worry about that $400 wedding (with CD and proofs) that happened yesterday, or the IT guy who shoots for the local ice-cream parlor for trade (Mmmm â€“ Rocky Road). Who cares anyway.&#8221; </em></p>
<p>Yes, I dismissed him because he is shooting for ice cream. I don&#8217;t care about that&#8230; and in the context of the previous post I was also referring to him in the context that OTHER people worry about him. I do not care about that stuff in relationship to it &#8216;destroying professional photography&#8221; as others seem to be so concerned about. </p>
<p>&#8220;And the difference isâ€¦?&#8221;</p>
<p>You are kidding, right? </p>
<p>The difference is that David is now a professional and has been steadily building a career. I do not see ANY correlation between &#8216;shooting weekend gigs&#8217; for fun and building a career. Even if it happens post transition, the career choice is the point of the interview.</p>
<p>I am profiling someone who shot what he shot and built a career.</p>
<p>What in my statement about the ice cream shooter indicated anything about his career choices, how and why he was doing it, what plans he had for the ice cream shots, whether he was planning on moving into food shooting or even that it was somehow wrong for him to do that. I perfectly stated that it didn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>Quality of work.<br />
Discipline.<br />
Marketing.<br />
Meeting Challenges.<br />
Business Sense.</p>
<p>You seem to indicate that I was somehow disparaging to the IT guy shooting ice cream stores for ice cream. I was not&#8230; read it again. I don&#8217;t care about that stuff.</p>
<p>But when someone breaks from that and starts to build a career in photography &#8211; and is successful in that transition &#8211; that is interesting. </p>
<p>Guy shooting ice cream is an IT guy shooting for trade. Nope, not going to do an interview with him.<br />
Guy who used to shoot ice cream parlors for trade, and now is shooting food for magazines&#8230; yeah, him I would interview.</p>
<p>Are you telling me you see no difference there?</p>
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